TEAM DVM: Some Toys From the DVM Armory

by James and Bubba G · 20 comments

in Guns, TEAM DVM

Eeny, meeny, miny, moe

I asked my bro Bubba G. to write up a quick overview of some of the “less common” rifles we have in the Team DVM Armory. We use most of these rifles for training classes we run, the occasional stateside gig and for collection purposes [and the impending zombie apocalypse Bubba swears will happen].

We left out more common rifles like AK’s we own because you all have been there and seen that, plus these are a bit more interesting than another AR review. This is actually the first of a series of articles on the gear we have tucked away at the Team DVM HQ.

If you would like a more detailed review on any of the rifles below just let us know in the comments.

~James G

FN SCAR

The FN SCAR, DVM has laying around is the Mk16 Light 5.56 variant of FN’s new rifle series and has hit the civvie market by storm. Yes. The SOCOM guys have said ‘no’ and there’s a lot in print on that as I write this. However, I have to say that this rifle is a shit-hot alternative to any AR variant in its class.

The PWS muzzle break combined with the excellent FN design made cycling rounds a pleasure. No muzzle rise and barely any felt recoil.” FANTASTIC!”

It gets the DVM thumbs up on ergonomics, simple manual of arms, accuracy, and sex appeal. The rifle is instinctive to use and has all the needed design features.

We feel raped paying over 2K for this weapon, but it is a serious alternative to the AR and AK. Thus we have no reservations fielding this weapon for duty and/or training.

BUSHMASTER ACR

You’d think MAGPUL would have researched the track record of potential production partners in this project. And that they made a good move partnering with Bushmaster, but this rifle already has a recall in on it –

http://bushmaster.com/pdf/ACR-Web-Notification.pdf

So why did we buy a $2500 Beta gun? Well, the damn thing has all the right bells and whistles and is supremely accurate. A bit heavy for a weapon in its class, but a real tack driver – At one time we considered the ACR for a ‘go-to’ rifle if we had to have a single rifle from the arms room to sort out business problems.

And we are not disappointed with its performance, but the kinks have yet to be worked out making this rifle unsat for real duty at the moment. It’s a good concept, but we will hold out hope that the production problems will be surmounted.

Would we buy a dozen ACR’s for the Team DVM Armory? Sure, in a couple of years, but not right now.

SIG 556 CLASSIC SWAT

This rifle is what you’d expect from SIG. Top of its class, but still 2K in price. It is a copy of their 550 series of rifles and is semi-auto only. The cool thing – it feeds AR mags as well as their own proprietary mag set up and has a kick-ass rail system to mount all the useless gear folks mount on weapons these days.

The diopter sight is kick ass, but takes some getting used to if you are transferring from an AR iron sight to this sighting system. Another down side to the diopter sight set-up is the inability to mount a red dot optic and get a co-witness.

If you spent the cash on this rifle, I believe your wad was well-spent. Works as designed and meets expectation. You won’t be disappointed.

S&W M&P 15-22

Holy shit this thing is the best buy of the year. We got one of these fine .22LR rifles for just over $350! We slapped some MAGPUL sights on it and went to town blasting targets at the range. It brought to us a ‘zen-like’ calm that only a semi-auto .22 LR rimfire could do.

It comes with a smooth feeding 25 round magazine that was so sweet we promptly bought 4 more of just because. This is the gun I wanted in my hands growing up. Too bad it took the industry 25 years to put a rifle like this on the market.

The weapon has all the features of the bigger brother series of ARs sans the forward assist. Great for training at a munitions cost much-much lower, but hell with that. The M&P 15-22 rifle is just plain accurate and fun.

IN WRAP UP

There’s a great deal of cool rifles to choose from these days; most of good quality, but the prices seem to be blowing normal folks out of the market.

Honestly, there’s really nothing ‘new’ just reinvented. If you’ve got an AR or AK in your gun vault, I’d say you’re not under-gunned or outmatched, but at least there are some growing options out there in a similar class of rifles, but nowhere near as cheap as the ARs and AKs floating around the market.

If you’re looking for a training solution that’s cost effective – BUY an S&W M&P 15-22.

Stay tuned for more reviews. There’s a shitload of rifles and gear in the Team DVM Armory.

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~Bubba G
Editor at Large

Bubba G is an active protective professional presently performing contract duties in the Middle East and has well over 15 years of military, high risk contracting, international training and martial arts experience.

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~James G
Founder – Editor in Chief

James G is a Veteran Civilian Contractor who has worked in the Middle East and Southeast Asia for way too long; he has traveled to over 50 countries chasing fortune and glory. He spends his off time in Indonesia and Virginia getting drunk, shooting guns, writing poorly written articles and being the only guy at the range using iron sights. James G. on FACEBOOK

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Adam November 4, 2010 at 13:33

Damn, looks good guys. How were you able to snag that 15-22 for such little cash?

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PogueMahone November 4, 2010 at 13:37

Damn, looks good guys. How were you able to snag that 15-22 for such little cash?  (Quote This Comment)

Amen! I paid more for my 10/22 and upgraded ninja stock!

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James G. November 4, 2010 at 13:43

Once you buy over 100 guns from the same store you start getting a discount

~James G

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LBJ November 4, 2010 at 14:02

This is actually the first of a series of articles on the gear we have tucked away at the Team DVM Hideout.

Can’t wait…great article!

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Slobyskya Rotchikokov November 4, 2010 at 14:29

Great article, looking forward to more-
BTW, met a guy who says he can get me a good FAL for 300 but I don’t know, he wants cash and wants me to meet him alone at the old abandoned K-Mart warehouse outside of town after 2300. I’m probably just being paranoid, I’m sure he’s really a good guy. Besides, I think I saw some kind of badge on the floorboard of his car…

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ThreePercenter November 4, 2010 at 16:13

“We feel raped paying over 2K for this weapon, but it is a serious alternative to the AR and AK. Thus we have no reservations fielding this weapon for duty and/or training.”

I would have one seroius reservation fielding that weapon for duty work. Try finding parts for it… No parts are really avalible on the open market to support the FN-SCAR. So unless you choose to follow the rule; two is one, and one is none, so as to have a complete parts kit for the other. Well… Now you’re gonna feel like a heard of elephants just gang raped you after laying down near 5 large, just for the two SCAR’s. The rifle and it’s complete parts kit, the second rifle…

To finnish that train of thought, 5-G’s could go to better things like beans, bills and bullets. Lots of ammo stacked steep and deep for training, like to feed your AK/AR at a good shoot and scoot school/course or a shooting range membership.

I don’t disagree the FN-SCAR is a next gen great shooter. But it was said in another part of the article on the ACR. Give it a year or two more.

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Eugene November 4, 2010 at 16:31

Great rifles. Always been a fan of sig rifles. And I love the SCAR as well. I can’t get behind the ACR, I loved the idea of the Massada but when I found out that Bushmaster was going to produce it, it dropped the appeal of it by a lot. I have heard good things, but just can’t get behind them.

I do however appreciate the 15/22 smith and wesson. I train with it a lot. Have the magpul furniture version.

My go to rifle right now is my LaRue OBR 5.56. Probably the most accurate rifle I have ever had. And it is so solid. Also is by and far my favorite handguard of all time.

Though my preferred rifle is one of the variants of the G36. I have never ever had any problems with mine whatsoever. Though I recommend getting the AR mag adapter because the G36 mags are pricey.

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Firewalker November 4, 2010 at 17:48

I’m damned curious about that S&W right now… I may have to start saving some pennies to afford a range membership again if that rifle is as awesome as it looks.

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Ohtar November 4, 2010 at 19:21

I want that red one.

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Ducky November 4, 2010 at 19:24

Though I recommend getting the AR mag adapter because the G36 mags are pricey.  

I thought the AR and the G36 rifles were built to NATO STAGNAG to take the same magazines? just kidna wondering if I’m FOS here

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Eugene November 4, 2010 at 19:44

Though I recommend getting the AR mag adapter because the G36 mags are pricey.  I thought the AR and the G36 rifles were built to NATO STAGNAG to take the same magazines? just kidna wondering if I’m FOS here  

Nope. I have two mag well types. One that came with the rifles that take G36 mags and one that is aftermarket that takes AR/M16 style mags. I am pretty sure it doesn’t have the NATO STAGNAG. The adapter looks like this.

http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/AR15-M16-SL8-G36-Mag-Well-Adapter-182p800.htm

I hear the new version of the G36 rifles are coming out with a better stock and can come with the AR/M16 mag well. But I think you have to order it before hand. Not sure on that though. I think it is a smart thing to do given the sheer numbers of the M16 style mags especially with the popularity and relative low price of the Pmags and would open them to a more diverse market. Don’t get me wrong the G36 mags are solid, reliable and you can couple them together without any further equipment (something I am really surprised no else has copied {aside from sig}) But at about $60 a pop. It can turn a lot of Departments and units off of it.

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Ducky November 4, 2010 at 19:49

oh right, wiki article says G36 through conversion, yeah, if they did make the G36 be able to take AR mags then I bet you the system would be a lot more popular and widespread because Germans seem to be able to make mechanical masterpieces out of anything

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Mark November 4, 2010 at 22:17

I have a scar and two sigs. They are cool guns, but not perfect. One of the sigs is fussy about what it eats (doesn’t like wolf) and the scar won’t eat wolf either, and has magazine issues. P-mags wont drop free, but we already knew this when it was purchased. Lancers won’t even run it. I had to stock up on Tango down arc mags, which I guess is OK. I keep finding myself returning to my 6920. It doesn’t seem to have any issues- yet, and I like the “we don’t like civilians to own our guns” stamp on the lower. Makes me laugh………On the brite side, I picked up the scar private sale NIB for $2k

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M@ November 5, 2010 at 00:07

Any experience with the AR 22LR drop in kits?

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Bubba G November 5, 2010 at 01:08

Mark,

The Sig was a recent purchase and I can report no problems to date. I have heard of issues with the earlier production run Sigs as well and with the very same problems you’ve mentioned.

The DVM SCAR must have been a pick of the lot. Runs all the mags I’ve fed it and the MAGPUL mags have seated without issue. So far, a case of ammo has tested its reputation with no noticeable problems.

I can only give you our personal experiences thus far, but the SCAR has been promising.

AR’s will still be the major platform for the foreseeable future for most, but the competition is out there testing the market with advancements and in many cases failures.

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Bubba G November 5, 2010 at 01:26

ohtar,

That’s my favorite piece of rubber, and its used. Go find your own!

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blaine Johnson November 5, 2010 at 02:04

Is any one having any fun with the GSG’s? .22 is a real cheap round for a replica.

Blaine

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Eugene November 5, 2010 at 15:57

Mark,The Sig was a recent purchase and I can report no problems to date. I have heard of issues with the earlier production run Sigs as well and with the very same problems you’ve mentioned.

Speaking of Sig and their awesomeness. I just read over on The Firearm Blog that they are going to make the sig 556 rifle in 7.62×39 and will be able to take a standard AK mag. I think this is going to be a huge step for Sig. I have often wonder why no one has taken this kind of step with anyone of their platforms. Hopefully there will be more to come.

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Tim Miller November 7, 2010 at 09:52

Great Article! News Flash on the SIGS. For a limited time SIG has reduced the price on the 556 rifles by almost 50% to reduce inventory levels as they introduce their 516 Piston rifle. I don’t know how many Dealers are letting their customers see the lower price. We now have the 556 Swat Patrol for a little over $1100.00! A great deal for a very nice gun!

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P. Wright February 20, 2013 at 20:49

Thoughts on the Sig Sauer P220?

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